again we have been witnessing a hideous, horrible act of terrorism where cowards and maniacs have blown up innocent people.
it is thoroughly distressing and revolting.
being a bit cynical about it this it is in all probability a payback to britain for blairs staunch support to george bush.
I have heard that war is a mugging on a grand scale.
Google, really liked alot of what you had to say. Its like with the anit smoking thing here in the US, don't attack the smokes, attack the problem, educate people out of smoking. How do we get at the source of terrorism?
i've had good and bad days since stumbing onto jwd... and i've learned more in my short time here than in the last 20 years as an "active" and true to the bone...dub.... but today (tonight) i'm really sad... the tone of almost every thread i read has gotten "ugly".... i love "spirited" discussion, but this is different.
it feels like forum anarchy.. is there no yielding anymore...?.
maybe it was just too much happened today... or solar flares or something... i don't know...don't care.... maybe my new found "love" for my country (not the blind patriotic crap) and life coupled with the obvious animosity toward this love by some...well just bums me out.
Spook, why can't people debate and discuss without being angry or offensive?
well, i introduced the kitten to catnip today ... lol!
she is too cute, except when she lands on my back with all four paws, claws out, to get my attention ... ouch!.
it just makes me wonder .. why is it okay to get our pets stoned, and not ourselves?.
**Waves back at Talesin***
Hey know the joke about the masochist that tells the sadist to give them 9 inches and make it hurt?
So the Sadist screws them twice and slaps them.
well, i introduced the kitten to catnip today ... lol!
she is too cute, except when she lands on my back with all four paws, claws out, to get my attention ... ouch!.
it just makes me wonder .. why is it okay to get our pets stoned, and not ourselves?.
Damn, I thought this was going to be a S&M thread.
i've had good and bad days since stumbing onto jwd... and i've learned more in my short time here than in the last 20 years as an "active" and true to the bone...dub.... but today (tonight) i'm really sad... the tone of almost every thread i read has gotten "ugly".... i love "spirited" discussion, but this is different.
it feels like forum anarchy.. is there no yielding anymore...?.
maybe it was just too much happened today... or solar flares or something... i don't know...don't care.... maybe my new found "love" for my country (not the blind patriotic crap) and life coupled with the obvious animosity toward this love by some...well just bums me out.
Brooke, Word!
Doogie, thanks man. As I said, I'm not anti-science at all, science is great, I love the technology and advances etc. It just struck me reading your last post that what really sends me is the science folks strike that same chord the hardcore dubs and other religious zealots do, ie: We have the (scientific, religious "truth") and you are so pitiable in that you do not.
That's what really bugs me, not the field itself, in that you are totally correct, its the arrogance and condenscending attitude no matter where its derived from.
i've had good and bad days since stumbing onto jwd... and i've learned more in my short time here than in the last 20 years as an "active" and true to the bone...dub.... but today (tonight) i'm really sad... the tone of almost every thread i read has gotten "ugly".... i love "spirited" discussion, but this is different.
it feels like forum anarchy.. is there no yielding anymore...?.
maybe it was just too much happened today... or solar flares or something... i don't know...don't care.... maybe my new found "love" for my country (not the blind patriotic crap) and life coupled with the obvious animosity toward this love by some...well just bums me out.
U/D, I hear you. I have been trying to make that point the last couple of days myself, even before the London bombings that it seemed to me that people on the forum had been getting nasty, arrogant, condenscending, etc. towards one another and it was bugging me. Enough that I have seriously considered no longer visiting. It doesn't have to be hearts and flowers all the time here but the overall tone, at least my perception of it has just not been very pleasant. Dragonlady started a thread a week or so ago asking about rudeness, people are noticing.
Debate all you want, but your views don't have to be presented in a way that implies the other person is a raving imbicile. Anyway, that's my two cents, U/D I hope you feel better man, you are one of my favorite people here.
Doogie, now that's a nice response from a science person, I hope some others can follow your example.
First I would say that reversed/trashed might be too strong of language, but a simple example would be medical science. When my mother had children extended bed rest was the order of the day after delivery, now it is up on your feet quickly after delivery. That sort of thing I would call reversing, seems to be a lot of it in the medical sciences, breast feed, no, formula is better, no, wait now breast feeding is back in vogue.
Also I just got my new issue of Discover magazine and on the cover is "Is String Theory About to Snap?" The article says and I quote, "To be brutally honest, there is no proof whatsoever that the string theory is correct," my point? That I could just imagine someone beating the crap out of some creationist here on a thread telling them "the string theory tells us blah, blah, blah" as if that is the holy gospel as well.
But really, my point was more towards the arrogance that is often adopted by the scientific community and how it bothers me as much as the arrogance that many of us despise about the WTBS. I have witnessed some pretty intense trashing of people on this forum by the hard science folks and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I am by no means anti-science, and I will only state this as it is germaine to the discussion my undergrad is in a hard science field, I just don't like arrogant people that use their scientific knowledge to hammer people anymore than the religious zealots.
SNG, no, I definitely got it. I understand that it is satire in the same vein as Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" where with a mastery of the english language he made the eating of our young seem very reasonable. My point was that hard science folks can be just as bad as the religious fanatics, getting up on the pulpit of science and worshiping at its altar, sneering at all those that do not worship along with them. Science has its limitations which many are loathe admit while they pontificate about this or that scientific "fact". As I said in my earlier post, the hard sciences have a pretty good track record with their own version of "new light" where theories are either reversed or trashed altogher when new data comes in. I was simply asking the science folks to go a little easier on the non-science folks with their particlular brand of "preaching." On this forum I have seen some pretty condenscending attitudes from folks in the scientific community towards others.
i can';t get through to any of my friends at liverpool street including my ex.
am really worried!
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I totally agree with Simon and Abbadon, fight smarter, not harder. I guess that just begs the question, how do you fight terrorism?
